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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
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- June 29th, 1992
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains
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- - Meeting
- - Meeting Attendees
- - Meeting Notes
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- Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil for more information.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
- Chiappa, Noel
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / MIT
- Estrada, Susan / CERFnet
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
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- AGENDA
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- 1. Administrivia
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Next Meeting
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- 2. Working Group Actions
- o Mobile IP
- o IDRP for IP over IP
- o Remote Conferencing
- o Host Resources MIB
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- 3. Technical Management Issues
- o Ident Protocol Discussions
- o IAB Report from Kobe
- o IAB ROAD Decision
- o IESG ROAD Recommendation
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- MINUTES
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- 1. Administrivia
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- o The Agenda was drastically reduced to make time for an extended
- discussion on the IAB proposed recommendation for mid-term routing
- and addressing.
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- o The IESG set Monday July 6th as the next IESG teleconference from
- 12-2, PM EDT. The IESG was invited to participate in the IAB
- meeting July 6th, 5pm EDT.
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- 2. Working Group Actions
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- o Mobile IP
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- The IESG approved the formation of the Mobile IP Working Group in
- the Routing Area. This group has meet on several occasions as a
- BOF.
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- o IDRP for IP over IP
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- The IDRP for IP over IP working group was approved. The first
- working group meeting will be at the Boston IETF meeting.
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- o Host Resource MIB
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- The Host resources MIB working group was approved with a
- restoration of specific non-document milestones. The first meeting
- will be at the Boston IETF meeting.
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- o Remote conferenceing
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- The IESG had several concerns about the intended scope of this
- effort. The group has chosen a very ambitious charter with
- without much attention to the plan for completing their work. The
- group may be better chartered as several smaller efforts. The
- IESG decided that the group could meet in Boston as BOF.
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- Action: Vaudreuil -- Work with Hobby to redefine this work effort.
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- 3. Technical Management Issues
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- o Ident Protocol Discussions
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- The IESG received a lengthy note from Dan Bernstein which was sent
- to several large mailing lists. This note was intended to
- document what was perceived to be injustices in the handling of
- the RFC931 revisions document. While the IESG understood that the
- note reflected Bernsteins view of the process/events, this view it
- did not match that of the IESG, and the IESG felt compelled to
- provide an official response.
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- ACTION: Gross -- Draft and send a response to the IETF list.
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- o IAB Kobe Meeting Report
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- Lyman participated in the teleconference and gave a brief report
- of the IAB meeting in Kobe. At that meeting the IAB was
- rechartered under the Internet Society as the Internet
- Architecture Board. The majority of the time was spent
- discussing the next generation routing and addressing
- architecture.
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- o IAB Routing Recommendation
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- At the Kobe meeting, the IAB discussed the various proposals for
- solving the current routing and addressing problems. They
- characterize the problem in new terminology, with the following
- recommendations. 1) The IETF should immediately begin
- engineering address assignment to facilitate CIDR aggregation, 2)
- The IETF should begin the design of the next generation Addressing
- and Routing system based on CLNP, and 3) Research should proceed
- on the long term routing and addressing protocols and
- architecture. This document apparently represents a consensus view
- as a reasonable direction to proceed.
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- The IESG discussed this document at length and had several
- observations, the most immediate of which was the departure from
- the IESG recommendation which circulated the
- big-internet@munnari.oz.au mailing list. The IAB rational for
- making a decision immediately represents an understanding that
- further time and energy devoted to debating the choice of network
- layer protocol was neither feasible nor useful. Efforts aimed at
- winning a debate are not likely to be the same efforts needed to
- design complete and tested protocols.
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- The IAB has cast the decision in terms or working on an IP version
- 7 which is based on CLNP. The intent appears to allow the
- IAB/IETF to have change control over the particular elements of
- the protocol which may be required to make changes where
- technically needed. There appears to be at least an appearance of
- conflict between a desire to leverage current protocols and
- infrastructure and the necessity to re-engineer portions of this
- infrastructure.
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- It was accepted by most of the IESG that CLNP deployment can
- proceed in a reasonable timeframe and was not a big obstacle. The
- re-engineering of transport, application, routing, and management
- protocols needed to maintain current levels of service is expected
- by the IESG to be a much larger effort that is currently
- understood. The IESG discussed and agreed that it was important to
- give this proposed decision public review.
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- ACTION: Coya, Gross -- Schedule a time at the Boston IETF meeting for
- an open discussion and review of the IAB's proposed recommendation on
- IP version 7.
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- o IESG ROAD Recommendation
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- The IESG did not have enough time to review the Phill Gross/
- Philip Almquist revised Routing recommendation. Those IESG members who
- had an opportunity to review the work agreed with the overall
- position and tone of the message and suggested publication in the
- next few days.
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- ACTION: Gross -- Take editorial input from the IESG and post the IESG
- recommendation to the IAB as an Internet Draft.
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